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Posted 4/11/2017 23:42
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I can't believe ND highlighted Harry Arter. I love Harry, and am desperate for him to find his form of old, but today, he was far and away our worst player.
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Posted 5/11/2017 00:05
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I can’t believe the ridiculous spelling of immense has not been highlighted.

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Posted 5/11/2017 00:11
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Arter and Surman both well off the pace in the first half. Surman ran the show after the break, while Shelvey and Ritchie went missing for Newcastle.
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Posted 5/11/2017 01:11
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Sorry Neil I agree to disagree Arter was poor again today. Why on earth was Cook L dropped in his favour?

Francis back to his mistakes blame other routine.

Hard graft but we came a long way home with 3 points from the Temple Mr Plod.
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Posted 5/11/2017 01:28
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If not looking through rose tinted spectacles, L.Cook was poor against Chelsea. One game means nothing - he's been excellent in other games - but it does seem to me that EH rotates in response to injury, nature of opposition / formation, and his own perception (perhaps shaped by video analysis) of player performances. So this was a game where we went 442 and EH obviously thought it suited Arter, notwithstanding previous poor form. Cook made way. Makes sense to me. No point in dropping Surman - he's been (overall) our best player this season. Both Arter and surman struggled first half - weren't tight enough. Much better second half - I think in part as Pugh tucked in a bit and King dropped off. Enabled us to be a bit more compact.

Ake average game for him. S Cook was excellent (bear in mind all the criticism about him struggling as right side centre half). Begovic superb save kicking.
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Posted 5/11/2017 08:06
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If not looking through rose tinted spectacles, L.Cook was poor against Chelsea. One game means nothing - he's been excellent in other games - but it does seem to me that EH rotates in response to injury, nature of opposition / formation, and his own perception (perhaps shaped by video analysis) of player performances. So this was a game where we went 442 and EH obviously thought it suited Arter, notwithstanding previous poor form. Cook made way. Makes sense to me. No point in dropping Surman - he's been (overall) our best player this season. Both Arter and surman struggled first half - weren't tight enough. Much better second half - I think in part as Pugh tucked in a bit and King dropped off. Enabled us to be a bit more compact.

Ake average game for him. S Cook was excellent (bear in mind all the criticism about him struggling as right side centre half). Begovic superb save kicking.


Yes Begovic had one or two iffy kicks but on the whole he found Francis every time with his kicks to the half way line on the right. That was his favoured option. He overhit a couple second half to Daniels on the left.
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Posted 5/11/2017 08:52
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A great result, but Surman, Arter and Ibe dithered a lot and lost possession countless times.

Luckily we weren’t punished for it.

What has happened to Arters shooting ability??

He used to smash them in from range in the Championship, now he can’t hit a cows arse with a banjo.
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Posted 5/11/2017 08:57
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What has happened to Arters shooting ability??

He used to smash them in from range in the Championship, now he can’t hit a cows arse with a banjo.



I'll repeat my claim from a couple years ago that I got ridiculed for.

It's the ball. Slightly heavier Mitre Delta in the Football League compared to the light Nike ball in the Premier League.

Edit - Actually it was only seven months ago and I wasn't ridiculed at all. Must be getting old...

http://www.bournemouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view...
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Posted 5/11/2017 09:26
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Only one Boscombe player potentially could appear in the play-offs to qualify for the World Cup.

That player gets a full game the week before the International break.

Coincidence, rocket-science or obvious?
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Posted 5/11/2017 10:12
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What has spelling of 'imens' got to do with Boscombe beating Newcastle?
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Posted 5/11/2017 10:39
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Arter was looking good in the last 20 minutes.
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Posted 5/11/2017 10:54
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Lots of theories on why Arter played but the reality in my opinion is staring us in the face if you look at our history.

Whenever we have poor form and a crucial run of ‘winnable’ games the same thing always happens, Eddie reverts to 442 and puts as many fit players from the old guard in as possible. It often sees the return of Pugh for example. Better players than Lewis Cook have suffered from this policy as Jack Wilshere will testify. Personally he should always start for me but it didn’t surprise me that he didn’t, we called the side on the way up.

It will be this side now, barring injuries, until December.
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Posted 5/11/2017 10:58
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Also, I can’t believe people are intimating that Surmans form slipped because he had to play with Arter. Whatever you think about either player and their current form their telepathic understanding has been the crux of our greatest ever era. This is not a Lampard/gerrard situation we are dealing with.

Now, fair enough say you want one dropped because of their individual form but to suggest that ones form is effected by playing with the other is ridiculous imo.
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Posted 5/11/2017 11:07
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Standent - 5/11/2017 01:28

If not looking through rose tinted spectacles, L.Cook was poor against Chelsea. One game means nothing - he's been excellent in other games - but it does seem to me that EH rotates in response to injury, nature of opposition / formation, and his own perception (perhaps shaped by video analysis) of player performances. So this was a game where we went 442 and EH obviously thought it suited Arter, notwithstanding previous poor form. Cook made way. Makes sense to me. No point in dropping Surman - he's been (overall) our best player this season. Both Arter and surman struggled first half - weren't tight enough. Much better second half - I think in part as Pugh tucked in a bit and King dropped off. Enabled us to be a bit more compact.



I think this sums it up. Lewis Cook lost his way a bit in the second half at Stoke and Arter came on and calmed things down. I thought Cook then struggled against Chelsea - I reckon Harry would have too in that game but you can kind of understand Harry getting the nod in such a crucial game.

I wasn't there yesterday but I hope Cook gets in again after the international break. I feared he'd be dropped after Stoke for the old Arter/Surman axis and he wasn't so he's in with a shout.
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Posted 5/11/2017 13:34
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Neil Dawson - 5/11/2017 10:58

Also, I can’t believe people are intimating that Surmans form slipped because he had to play with Arter. Whatever you think about either player and their current form their telepathic understanding has been the crux of our greatest ever era. This is not a Lampard/gerrard situation we are dealing with.

Now, fair enough say you want one dropped because of their individual form but to suggest that ones form is effected by playing with the other is ridiculous imo.


I’m not so sure, it can’t just be coincidence as Surman has looked a lot more composed and positive when he’s played with Cook.

I wonder if Harry’s headless chicken, always turn backwards (why does he do that now?) style affects Surman’s thinking about what he should be doing?
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Posted 5/11/2017 13:43
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Surman has also looked very composed and positive when he has played with Arter over the years. When he was giving the ball away sloppily yesterday I’m not sure how we can blame that on Arter... seems symptomatic to me of people wanting to scapegoat Harry. It would be like suggesting that Pugh can’t play with Daniels and his form is Daniels fault. We just know that there is too much evidence to the contrary.
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Posted 5/11/2017 14:44
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Maybe it’s just coincidence then, but there’s no arguing Surman and Cook have been a good partnership this season, but Surman and Arter have not.
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Posted 5/11/2017 15:43
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Agree with that. Arters bite was superb too... Now just time to pair him with Cook for perfect midfield, Surman was back to poor form today I thought. Hard not to mention Cook though and Begovic needs a shout too.


I thought Arter had a poor game, gave the ball away far too often from simple passes, constantly turning backwards and putting his teammates under pressure, lazy throw-way shots from 30 yards out that
sail over high and wide. He won the ball a few times, that was about it. No coincidence that Surman's form dropped just as Arter came back into the team.

Today proved for me that Surman becomes sideways Surman when paired with Arter, and that our best duo in midfield is Surman and Cook.


Completely agree. Surman and Cook the best way forward for midfield.
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Posted 5/11/2017 18:27
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Maybe it’s just coincidence then, but there’s no arguing Surman and Cook have been a good partnership this season, but Surman and Arter have not.


Correct. There is no arguing. Neil is attempting to prove a point and something in his head isn't computing.
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Posted 5/11/2017 18:44
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I'm starting to feel sorry for Neil - seems to be getting grief on every thread. I think I best have a lie down.

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